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C'mon, you all have been DYING for me to do this...admit it...waiting with baited breath...


Reasons why I am against animal sacrifice:

1) Animal sacrifice no longer has the meaning, connotation, or understanding that it once did. It was originally done in ancient times where they didn't have supermarkets and food wasn't as easy to come by. The Mediterranean diet typically is pretty lean on meat so animal sacrifice would've been a huge feast and an especial treat for people who may not necessary get enough food daily. When you can buy a package of beef at your corner supermarket you can't possibly understand what makes an "animal sacrifice". Don't make me quote that song "Common People" by Shatner again, m'kay?

2) I am vegan. Let me repeat that: I am vegan. I...do...not...eat...meat. I don't even eat eggs. Or dairy products. I'm not only against eating meat for myself, I certainly wouldn't be in favor of killing an animal. Not to mention the complete hypocricy of sacrificing something to the gods that which I would not partake of myself.

3) I am with the Orphics: the idea of spilling blood on gods' sacred altars is abhorrent to the point of being blasphemous in my eyes.


And now...the "Why I'm against animal sacrifice" FAQ!

Q: Will you tell people not to partake of animal sacrifice?
A: I'd advise against it, yes, but I'm not about to harass people or beat them over the head with it, either. If people are willing to eat meat and kill it with their own bare hands, I'm not going to be one of those types who douses their fur coats with paint and shuns them at every turn--at least they aren't being hypocritical and ignoring the fact that every time they eat meat, an animal's life was given so that they could eat. I like the Native American sentiment on this, actually, but it's really not the common opinion or thought. I actually find it way more hypocritical to be against animal sacrifice AND eat meat.

Q: Are you against people eating meat?
A: No, I am well aware that some people have ridiculous dietary restrictions (like yours truly, which is why I initially wound up going vegan to begin with) which prevents them from eating anything other than heavy food (like people who have severe IBD, etc) or having to live on a lo-carb diet (try being vegan and lo-carb, I dare you...I try but it's pretty damned hard). I also am well aware of what a PITA it is for people to tell ME how to eat, so I'm not going to lecture people on their dietary habits.

Q: Will you go to a Hellenic festival where you know an act of animal sacrifice will take place? Not just an offering of meat purchased at a store, but a real killing of an animal in honor of the gods?
A: No, and you can't entice me by offering "vegetarian options" for food there, either. Not a single vegetarian I know of would support the killing of an animal, let alone a vegan.

Q: Are you sure that you wouldn't want to support your fellow Hellenists by going to the festival anyway?
A: No, I am quite sure and while we're at it, if it's so important to kill animals in order to be "reconstructionist" why don't you go REALLY hardcore and start shoving people off of cliffs for the Thargelia??

Q: *gasp* But that would be MURDER!
A: So is the killing of an animal. NEXT!

Q: Suppose we dress up the animal to look like a piece of celery, then kill it?
A: It's still an animal in a celery costume!!

Q: Suppose we take a piece of celery and draw a face on it, would you still eat it?
A: Yes because celery is a VEGETABLE!

Q: What if the vegetable cries out in pain?
A: Then STOP DOING DRUGS!!

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Date: 2006-11-13 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
A gay man defends his "gayness" against someone who accuses him of not being gay enough. 1 drink. (2 drinks if he manages to accuse the other guy of being a paedophile in the process)

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Date: 2006-11-13 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
Someone misquotes something that was horribly mangled in translation from the original Greek to prove they're right and everyone else is wrong - 1 drink

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Date: 2006-11-13 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
2 drinks if their english is worse that the original poster. And one more drink for every typo.

And then....

Date: 2006-11-13 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysathora.livejournal.com
Two extra drinks for every time someone posts to complain about the typos. And then another drink every time the OP whines about being corrected.

By this time, we will all have died of alcohol poisoning.

Re: And then....

Date: 2006-11-13 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
One drink every time someone dies of alcohol poisoning.

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Date: 2006-11-13 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysathora.livejournal.com
...or the Bible. I think that's actually happened before.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysathora.livejournal.com
1 drink for every time someone calls someone else "gay" and means it as an insult. 2 drinks if the same person flips out when his/her sexuality is called into question.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
3 drinks for every time someone thinks that going on and on about their sexuality is on topic for the list.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysathora.livejournal.com
Or pretty much anything about their personal life. You can always tell who the exhibitionist drama queens are.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
Oh yes, and none of them will be allowed on the closed list. No siree.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
Finish the bottle if the person when the person who flips out posts to the list that the original message comes out of the closet after all.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
5 shots of tequila every time someone new shows up in the community and is an obnoxious drama queen.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
1 drink whenever someone joins with a name containing references to fae or glitter

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
One drink for every person who comes in with a normal sounding name and keeps changing it to yet another Hellenic crazy variant.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
One drink for every person who unsubs and resubs in the same 5 day period.

Two drinks for every person who unsubs and resubs the same day with a slightly different spelling of their handle.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
One drink for every n00b who gets on the list and then complains about it.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brontosproximo.livejournal.com
One drink for every fool who quotes the Illiad or the Odyssey like they are the Polythiest Old an New Testament.

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
AWESOME! :D

Sorry, that was me....

Date: 2006-11-13 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysathora.livejournal.com
One drink for every person who unsubs and resubs in the same 5 day period.

I can get us started off with that one :)

Re: Sorry, that was me....

Date: 2006-11-13 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene-myste.livejournal.com
AWESOME!

(and I knew it lol)

Re: Sorry, that was me....

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Re: Sorry, that was me....

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borealin.livejournal.com
I was waiting for a "chug"/"finish the bottle" one!

Thanx, Bronto!

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Date: 2006-11-13 07:43 pm (UTC)

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